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	<title>Comments on: New filings in marriage equality cases &#8211; UPDATED 5/16</title>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280530</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may have read this already (from Feb), explaining the distinction between the two answers to the complaint. I can upload the answers if you want to see them. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://1.usa.gov/AsKkKG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://1.usa.gov/AsKkKG&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Here&#039;s the order granting Hawaii Family Forum&#039;s motion to intervene.  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/93829405/43&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scribd.com/doc/93829405/43&lt;/a&gt; 
 
I&#039;ve only skimmed the order, but from what I read, it grants intervention as a right, saying HFF meets all four criteria. The opposing position of the two state defendants does factor into the judge&#039;s analysis of one of the criteria - that of whether HFF&#039;s interests will be adequately represented.   
 
If there are any other documents from the case you want to read, let me know and I&#039;ll get them.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have read this already (from Feb), explaining the distinction between the two answers to the complaint. I can upload the answers if you want to see them.<br />
  <a href="http://1.usa.gov/AsKkKG" rel="nofollow">http://1.usa.gov/AsKkKG</a> </p>
<p>Here&#039;s the order granting Hawaii Family Forum&#039;s motion to intervene.<br />
  <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/93829405/43" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/93829405/43</a> </p>
<p>I&#039;ve only skimmed the order, but from what I read, it grants intervention as a right, saying HFF meets all four criteria. The opposing position of the two state defendants does factor into the judge&#039;s analysis of one of the criteria &#8211; that of whether HFF&#039;s interests will be adequately represented.   </p>
<p>If there are any other documents from the case you want to read, let me know and I&#039;ll get them.  </p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Bill</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280527</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is bizarre. The governor said he would not defend it but that notwithstanding the AG has TWO separate teams of lawyers on the case - one in favor of having the referendum declared unconstitutional and the other team defending it on behalf of the Dept of Health clerk who is in charge of marriage licenses. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is bizarre. The governor said he would not defend it but that notwithstanding the AG has TWO separate teams of lawyers on the case &#8211; one in favor of having the referendum declared unconstitutional and the other team defending it on behalf of the Dept of Health clerk who is in charge of marriage licenses. </p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280524</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t been closely following that case (so much going on!) but I&#039;ll look into it and see if I can find anything. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t been closely following that case (so much going on!) but I&#039;ll look into it and see if I can find anything. </p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Bill</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280521</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 19:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathleen do you know about the Federal district court allowing the Hawaii Family Forum to intervene  to defend the Hawaii same sex marriage case?  THe position of the Governor and AG in this case is very confusing and may have led to this. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen do you know about the Federal district court allowing the Hawaii Family Forum to intervene  to defend the Hawaii same sex marriage case?  THe position of the Governor and AG in this case is very confusing and may have led to this. </p>
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		<title>By: cr8nguy</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280484</link>
		<dc:creator>cr8nguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 05:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[got it, thanks! it just seems crazy that it is taking this long to get somewhere on those. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got it, thanks! it just seems crazy that it is taking this long to get somewhere on those. </p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280481</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 05:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CT is Pedersen v. OPM;  NY is Windsor v. USA.  And no, nothing on either. They&#039;re fully briefed and awaiting decision.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CT is Pedersen v. OPM;  NY is Windsor v. USA.  And no, nothing on either. They&#039;re fully briefed and awaiting decision.  </p>
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		<title>By: cr8nguy</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280480</link>
		<dc:creator>cr8nguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh, sorry, no...i mean the cases that are in the 2nd circuit....both are still at district court level though i think. one in connecticut and one in SDNY. i can&#039;t remember the captions though. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, sorry, no&#8230;i mean the cases that are in the 2nd circuit&#8230;.both are still at district court level though i think. one in connecticut and one in SDNY. i can&#039;t remember the captions though. </p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 03:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing new on decision re: en banc in Perry or Golinski.  As to 2nd Circuit, do you mean 1st Circuit (Mass DOMA cases)?  If so, there has been no decision on those either. Typically, if there is such a thing as typical, figure about 3 months from oral arguments to decision. Oral argument in those cases was early April. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new on decision re: en banc in Perry or Golinski.  As to 2nd Circuit, do you mean 1st Circuit (Mass DOMA cases)?  If so, there has been no decision on those either. Typically, if there is such a thing as typical, figure about 3 months from oral arguments to decision. Oral argument in those cases was early April. </p>
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		<title>By: cr8nguy</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/qh/new-filings-in-marriage-equality-cases/#comment-280472</link>
		<dc:creator>cr8nguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 02:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[do you know anything more about the 2nd circuit cases? i havne&#039;t seen anything about them in months.  
 
or the 9th en banc decisions on perry and golinski? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you know anything more about the 2nd circuit cases? i havne&#039;t seen anything about them in months.  </p>
<p>or the 9th en banc decisions on perry and golinski? </p>
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