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		<title>By: Prop 8 Trial Tracker &#187; Recapping the week of November 14-20 at Prop8TrialTracker.com</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-260027</link>
		<dc:creator>Prop 8 Trial Tracker &#187; Recapping the week of November 14-20 at Prop8TrialTracker.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Collins&#8217; mind on DOMA (to which Sen. Lieberman&#8217;s people responded). Later that day, the news broke that the California Supreme Court would decide on the issue of whether proponents of ballot [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Collins&#8217; mind on DOMA (to which Sen. Lieberman&#8217;s people responded). Later that day, the news broke that the California Supreme Court would decide on the issue of whether proponents of ballot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MJFargo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJFargo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was beautiful, John. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was beautiful, John. </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259555</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 3-judge panel of the 9th Circuit court will issue a ruling when they are darned ready to.  They do not speed things up based on phone calls, e-mails, or petitions from the general public.  If you enjoy holding your breath, you can do so now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3-judge panel of the 9th Circuit court will issue a ruling when they are darned ready to.  They do not speed things up based on phone calls, e-mails, or petitions from the general public.  If you enjoy holding your breath, you can do so now. </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259439</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sexual minorities, to me, sounds like it doesn&#039;t necessarily include those trans people who are also straight.  I don&#039;t think anyone would fly off the handle about it, though.  Different terminology won&#039;t change who people are, but it does serve as a way of conveying your respect for others and your feelings about yourself.  When you&#039;re talking about others, I try just to use the terminology they tell me they prefer.  (Just as, if someone wanted to be called &quot;Bill,&quot; I wouldn&#039;t call him &quot;William.&quot;) 
 
Otherwise, adjectives describe a person, clauses modify them.  I am described by my gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, nationality, hair color, handedness, etc.  I am modified by the cold I have right now, the way I feel about Brussels sprouts, and the parrots I have.  Many people will feel that getting to the point where LGBT can be one of the things that describes you is sort of a culmination of their successful coming out and accepting themselves.  In that way, deliberately de-emphasizing LGBT could come off as a sign of discomfort. 
 
But I guess we all have our ways!  I often avoid &quot;marriage equality&quot; in favor of just &quot;equality.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexual minorities, to me, sounds like it doesn&#039;t necessarily include those trans people who are also straight.  I don&#039;t think anyone would fly off the handle about it, though.  Different terminology won&#039;t change who people are, but it does serve as a way of conveying your respect for others and your feelings about yourself.  When you&#039;re talking about others, I try just to use the terminology they tell me they prefer.  (Just as, if someone wanted to be called &quot;Bill,&quot; I wouldn&#039;t call him &quot;William.&quot;) </p>
<p>Otherwise, adjectives describe a person, clauses modify them.  I am described by my gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, nationality, hair color, handedness, etc.  I am modified by the cold I have right now, the way I feel about Brussels sprouts, and the parrots I have.  Many people will feel that getting to the point where LGBT can be one of the things that describes you is sort of a culmination of their successful coming out and accepting themselves.  In that way, deliberately de-emphasizing LGBT could come off as a sign of discomfort. </p>
<p>But I guess we all have our ways!  I often avoid &quot;marriage equality&quot; in favor of just &quot;equality.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Bill S.</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259391</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree. DOMA has both a 5th and 10th Amendment challenge, and invokes federalist principles which could appeal to the conservative justices. Perry invokes only a 14th Amendment challenge. DOMA also deals with couples who are already married under the law and exists only to complicate their lives.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. DOMA has both a 5th and 10th Amendment challenge, and invokes federalist principles which could appeal to the conservative justices. Perry invokes only a 14th Amendment challenge. DOMA also deals with couples who are already married under the law and exists only to complicate their lives.  </p>
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		<title>By: MightyAcorn</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259389</link>
		<dc:creator>MightyAcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why I think today&#039;s ruling is so interesting...the question of standing for initiative proponents has been batted around the courts for years and no one has really ruled on it yet. It&#039;s a hot potato that landed here in CA and the import of the ruling is huge, not just here in CA but in all states that have the initiative process and on the federal courts (including SCOTUS) who hear the appeals. It &#039;s especially intriguing because CASC are such wimps about imposing any restrictions on the process, even knowing how corrupt and (in this case) unconstitutional it is.  I await with interest (and for all the insightful commentary by P8TTers, of course.) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I think today&#039;s ruling is so interesting&#8230;the question of standing for initiative proponents has been batted around the courts for years and no one has really ruled on it yet. It&#039;s a hot potato that landed here in CA and the import of the ruling is huge, not just here in CA but in all states that have the initiative process and on the federal courts (including SCOTUS) who hear the appeals. It &#039;s especially intriguing because CASC are such wimps about imposing any restrictions on the process, even knowing how corrupt and (in this case) unconstitutional it is.  I await with interest (and for all the insightful commentary by P8TTers, of course.) </p>
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		<title>By: MJFargo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJFargo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I love Brussel sprouts too!) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I love Brussel sprouts too!) </p>
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		<title>By: AnonyGrl</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259381</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyGrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You both bring up interesting points.  And I can see both sides of it. 
 
I prefer to say &quot;I am a person.&quot;  The rest of it only matters if you want to put me in a box.  I am bisexual, but don&#039;t particularly care to be labelled as such, because I find it as unneccessary as labelling me as left handed or fond of brussel sprouts.  If you want me to tell you about myself, I will be happy to discuss those various facts, but I would hate to see a newspaper headline reading &quot;Bisexual red head saves puppy from an ice floe&quot;. 
 
But yes, words do matter.  For instance, I try to avoid &quot;same sex marriage&quot; in favor of &quot;marriage equality&quot;.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You both bring up interesting points.  And I can see both sides of it. </p>
<p>I prefer to say &quot;I am a person.&quot;  The rest of it only matters if you want to put me in a box.  I am bisexual, but don&#039;t particularly care to be labelled as such, because I find it as unneccessary as labelling me as left handed or fond of brussel sprouts.  If you want me to tell you about myself, I will be happy to discuss those various facts, but I would hate to see a newspaper headline reading &quot;Bisexual red head saves puppy from an ice floe&quot;. </p>
<p>But yes, words do matter.  For instance, I try to avoid &quot;same sex marriage&quot; in favor of &quot;marriage equality&quot;.    </p>
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		<title>By: AnonyGrl</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259380</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyGrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as obvious unconstitutionality, I think both cases have equal strength.  And since they attack the problem from different directions, it would be ideal for both to get there. 
 
As to which one should go first, tough to say.  I think DOMA would be a bigger help in winning Prop 8 than the other way around, but that is just my guess. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as obvious unconstitutionality, I think both cases have equal strength.  And since they attack the problem from different directions, it would be ideal for both to get there. </p>
<p>As to which one should go first, tough to say.  I think DOMA would be a bigger help in winning Prop 8 than the other way around, but that is just my guess. </p>
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		<title>By: Prop 8 Trial Tracker &#187; Prop 8 trial: Preview of today&#8217;s California Supreme Court opinion in Perry v. Brown</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2011/11/16/breaking-ca-supreme-court-to-issue-opinion-on-prop-8standing-tomorrow/#comment-259379</link>
		<dc:creator>Prop 8 Trial Tracker &#187; Prop 8 trial: Preview of today&#8217;s California Supreme Court opinion in Perry v. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] You can read more about how we got to this point in the case and why today&#8217;s opinion is important in yesterday&#8217;s preview post. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read more about how we got to this point in the case and why today&#8217;s opinion is important in yesterday&#8217;s preview post. [...]</p>
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