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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: Attorney General Jerry Brown will not appeal 9th Circuit stay decision</title>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this...I wish there was a &quot;like&quot; button...&lt;3...Ronnie ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this&#8230;I wish there was a &quot;like&quot; button&#8230;&lt;3&#8230;Ronnie </p>
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		<title>By: Ann S.</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the difference between not stepping into the ring and stepping into the ring with the intent to fight poorly. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s the difference between not stepping into the ring and stepping into the ring with the intent to fight poorly. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously I&#039;m not a lawyer, but how is electing not to defend not &quot;throwing&quot; the case? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I&#039;m not a lawyer, but how is electing not to defend not &quot;throwing&quot; the case? </p>
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		<title>By: josephatlaw</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159118</link>
		<dc:creator>josephatlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is heading for a showdown at the U.S. Supreme Court where the decision will likely depend on what Kennedy had for breakfast that morning.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://legalfriction.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://legalfriction.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is heading for a showdown at the U.S. Supreme Court where the decision will likely depend on what Kennedy had for breakfast that morning.  <a href="http://legalfriction.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://legalfriction.wordpress.com</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about the fact that they have a professional responsibility to their clients? They&#039;re prepared to appeal to higher courts, if necessary. But if this stops right here, they&#039;ve won the case for their clients.  The Proponents know that; this is just more deceptive spin. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the fact that they have a professional responsibility to their clients? They&#039;re prepared to appeal to higher courts, if necessary. But if this stops right here, they&#039;ve won the case for their clients.  The Proponents know that; this is just more deceptive spin. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann S.</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159116</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know they&#039;re being paid by AFER, right?  I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re getting their full fees, but this isn&#039;t a pro bono case. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know they&#039;re being paid by AFER, right?  I don&#039;t know if they&#039;re getting their full fees, but this isn&#039;t a pro bono case. </p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding NOM&#039;s rhetorical question, &quot;Here&#8217;s the question for today: If anti-Prop 8 lawyer Ted Olson is so convinced that after his vaunted trial the voters of California have no case&#8211;why is he now trying to prevent higher courts from reviewing his handiwork?&quot; 
 
.... first I&#039;ll  give the cynical (and very short)  answer to that.  Oslon and Boies are highly competent attorneys with abilities that normally command huge salaries/fees.  They are foregoing a lot of business by taking on this case.  Ending it quickly is in their self-interest.  (Note to Olson and Boies:  please take this as a purposely outrageous, backhanded compliment .) 
 
Now the pragmatic answer: risk mitigation.  In spite of the facts, there is a risk that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the defense due to its conservative bias (the result of appointments by Republican presidents), and many decisions are very close - 5-4 or 4-5.   It&#039;s safer to get a limited win by showing that the defense has no right to appeal given that the actual defendant (the state government of California) accepts Judge Walker&#039;s ruling. While limited in the sense that no nationwide-precedent would be set, Judge Walker&#039;s ruling will have nationwide influence as other jurists make use of it based on its merits, the result of Judge Walker and those on our side doing a wonderful job during the trial. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding NOM&#039;s rhetorical question, &quot;Here&rsquo;s the question for today: If anti-Prop 8 lawyer Ted Olson is so convinced that after his vaunted trial the voters of California have no case&ndash;why is he now trying to prevent higher courts from reviewing his handiwork?&quot; </p>
<p>&#8230;. first I&#039;ll  give the cynical (and very short)  answer to that.  Oslon and Boies are highly competent attorneys with abilities that normally command huge salaries/fees.  They are foregoing a lot of business by taking on this case.  Ending it quickly is in their self-interest.  (Note to Olson and Boies:  please take this as a purposely outrageous, backhanded compliment .) </p>
<p>Now the pragmatic answer: risk mitigation.  In spite of the facts, there is a risk that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the defense due to its conservative bias (the result of appointments by Republican presidents), and many decisions are very close &#8211; 5-4 or 4-5.   It&#039;s safer to get a limited win by showing that the defense has no right to appeal given that the actual defendant (the state government of California) accepts Judge Walker&#039;s ruling. While limited in the sense that no nationwide-precedent would be set, Judge Walker&#039;s ruling will have nationwide influence as other jurists make use of it based on its merits, the result of Judge Walker and those on our side doing a wonderful job during the trial. </p>
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		<title>By: The similarities and differences between the Prop 8 and DOMA cases &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159089</link>
		<dc:creator>The similarities and differences between the Prop 8 and DOMA cases &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] last night&#8217;s thread, Eden posted some thoughts from UPenn law professor Tobias Wolff: A victory in this appeal on the [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last night&#8217;s thread, Eden posted some thoughts from UPenn law professor Tobias Wolff: A victory in this appeal on the [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Richard A. Walter (s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard A. Walter (s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posting here under the alias of JT, claiming to be a lawyer who has argued cases in front of SCOTUS ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting here under the alias of JT, claiming to be a lawyer who has argued cases in front of SCOTUS </p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
		<link>http://equalityontrial.com/2010/08/16/breaking-attorney-general-jerry-brown-will-not-appeal-9th-circuit-stay-decision/#comment-159113</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it said that Jerry Jones is not appealing.  He is the named defendant right?  Shouldnt Olsen Boies side appeal?  I am sure this has been answered here as it was the first post, but taking a moment at work and not seeing the answer readily. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it said that Jerry Jones is not appealing.  He is the named defendant right?  Shouldnt Olsen Boies side appeal?  I am sure this has been answered here as it was the first post, but taking a moment at work and not seeing the answer readily. </p>
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