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Where is Brian Brown? And the winner is…

NOM Tour Tracker Right-wing

By Eden James

Last night, we speculated about the whereabouts of Brian Brown, the architect of the NOM tour — one of the most embarrassing national tour events ever attempted.

So we asked our NOMTourTracker.com community members to have a little fun with the question: Where is Brian Brown?

Well here’s the milk carton winner, posted in the comments by “Vaati”:

Missing: Brian Brown

Well done, Vaati!

Use this as an open thread to discuss whatever is on your mind around the NOM tour or the Prop 8 federal trial.

Over the flip, you’ll see a list of NOM events remaining on the tour over the next 3 weeks.

NOM’s “SUMMER FOR MARRIAGE” TOUR SCHEDULE

Lima, Ohio

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Saturday, July 24, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
Old Dave’s Market Parking Lot
2450 Ft. Amanda Rd.
Lima, OH 45804

Indianapolis, Indiana

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Monday, July 26, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House, East Steps
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Madison, Wisconsin

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House, (State Street entrance)
Madison, WI 53702

Saint Paul, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Minnesota State Capitol
St. Paul, MN 55155

Saint Cloud, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Thursday, July 29, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Granite City Baptist Church
1425 Country Road 134
St. Cloud, MN 56303

Rochester, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Friday, July 30, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Rochester, MN (Location TBD)

Des Moines, Iowa

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 1, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
State Capitol
Des Moines, IA 50319

Sioux City, Iowa

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, August 3, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Sioux City, IA (Location TBD)

St. Louis, Missouri

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Thursday, August 5, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
St. Louis, MO (Location TBD)

Atlanta, Georgia

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Saturday, August 7, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
State Capitol (Washington Street side)
Atlanta, GA 30334

Tampa, Florida

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 8, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
Tampa, FL (Location TBD)

Raleigh, North Carolina

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Raleigh, NC (Location TBD)

Charleston, West Virginia

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Charleston, WV (Location TBD)

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Friday, August 13, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Harrisburg, PA (Location TBD)

Washington, DC

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 15, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
U.S. Capitol Steps or Freedom Plaza
Washington, D.C.

81 Comments

  • 1. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:17 am

    I am going to repost this idea here…

    … a thought on Maggie’s “I am not my Brian’s keeper” line…

    Cain, after murdering Abel, was asked by God where Abel was. His response? “I am not my brother’s keeper.” This has become. among Christians, a phrase that means “I refuse to take responsibility for my actions, or for the welfare of others.”

    Hit her with THAT one when she says it again, which she will if asked, (unless she reads this blog, of course) because she now thinks it is the “cute” answer to “where is Brian?”

  • 2. Em  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Clever one, Anongyrl!

    How I wish it was coming within two hundred miles of where I live! I have sent emails to everyone I know living near towns on this list with a short explanation and a link to this website. Hopefully we can drum up increasing numbers of counter-protestors and when it hits DC there will be the greatest disparity ever between the number of NOM supporters and us. My younger brother is at Gallaudet in DC and says he'll put the word out among the formidable gay population at the university. He's quite a firecracker and I have no doubt he'll make something happen as far as event turnout. :)

    Good luck to all who can make it to these events!

  • 3. Taylor  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:40 am

    LOVE the milk carton, that's great!

    I wonder if Maggie saying that "I'm not Brian's keeper!" might be metaphorical? It is a paraphrase of the Biblical quote "Am I my brother's keeper?" Which is what Cain said after he slew Abel.

    Maybe Maggie "slew" Brian after the disastrous opening days of the tour, and she's now out on the road to show him how it should be done.

    Brian….oh….Brian….where areeeeee youuuuuu???

  • 4. Sean  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:41 am

    "I am not Brian's keeper!"

    "Then would you be so kind as to direct us to who is?"

  • 5. tim  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:43 am

    So St. Paul moved to Wednesday – wasn't it originally Tuesday?

  • 6. Ķĭŗîļĺę&  |  July 24, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Submarinelling

  • 7. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Checking to see if the subscription feature has been repaired.

  • 8. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Of course, clicnking the subscribe box might help in that endeavor, might it not? LOLAM!

  • 9. Jacob ER  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Hi, everyone! I've been following this site since it first started and finally I feel like commenting.

    Love the milk carton picture.

    :)

    There, a profound comment!

  • 10. Sagesse  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:04 am

    As others have noted about her Columbus speech, Maggie knows how to stick to the script, unlike Brian, who becomes heated and is more easily rattled. There's anger or spite in that line, and the fact she keeps repeating it. She knows exactly what she's saying. And it's not a reach to conclude she's not getting much respect lately from Brian and the powers that be at NOM.

  • 11. Dave in CA  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:05 am

    For folks on the ground today…. remember, Lima, Ohio is pronounced :"LIE-MA" or like in "more Pie, Ma!" or lima beans. Not pronounced "Lee-ma" and no relation to Lima, Peru. Pronounce it correctly and the natives will… well, maybe not necessarily like you any better, but at least you won't give them extra reason to dislike you.

    If I recall, Ohio State University has a satellite campus there. Maybe some students will show up….

  • 12. Sagesse  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Iowa. The only remaining stop(s) where marriage is legal, and has been for a year. New Hampshire didn't have the same potential, because the decision is newer. Bring out the married couples and their families. Take a group picture. Maybe there is a couple, or two or three or twelve who want to get married anyway, who would do it in a (group) ceremony parallel to the NOM events. Turn the LGBT counter event into a celebration.

    NOM has been avoiding the states where marriage is legal. Here's a chance to make the point that the sky has not fallen and the sun still shines and the little children are fine, thank you.

  • 13. Papa Foma  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Maggie may stick to the script — but the script is strange if it in fact says, "…we are the tip of the sphere…"
    Papa Foma

  • 14. Joel  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:24 am

    Since this an open thread today, would anyone care to venture a guess as to why Judge Walker is taking so long with his decision?

  • 15. Bryan  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:24 am

    You're right, there is a branch campus of OSU in Lima.

    And everyone should know how to say 'Lima'. It's the oft-mentioned setting of GLEE. C'mon, people! :-)

  • 16. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Perhaps he is waiting until the NOM Summer of Bigotry tour is over with.
    Actually, I personally think that it is the sheer volume of evidence he is having to wade through that is causing the delay. I also think he is probably writing and re-writing his ruling so that it will be clear and will have very little in it, if anything, that would give them any way to have it overturned.

  • 17. Bob Miller  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:32 am

    When i saw today's stop, I had to wonder, "Why Lima?" The site is also interesting, a market parking lot? I tried to find the place on line and couldn't. I bet they try to pull off the idea that since it is in a "Private space" ie: the non publicly owned store parking area, they get really pushy about who gets in. They will probably be real sticklers about keeping us out.

    Looking forward to the report and pictures!

  • 18. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Of course, he may also be waiting to see if Kagan is confirmed (which is the expected result).

  • 19. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:35 am

    I learned how to pronounce Lye-Ma, Ohio from my local newscasters. After all, I grew up in St. Albans, West-by God-Virginia, just outside of Charleston.

  • 20. Elsie  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:39 am

    I just used Google street viewed to check out NOM's Lima rally sight and it's either pathetic that they couldn't get a church to let them use their site or a permit to use a park or its genius that they are using what can be cordoned off as private property.

    Either way its a pathetic location.

  • 21. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:42 am

    I would think that the NOM tour doesn't figure highly in his timing, but probably more that he wants to make sure his decision is as clear and precise and well worded as possible.

    After reading the closing arguments, there seems little way he can rule against us (the main argument on the Prop 8 side seemed to be "procreation"…) but he does need to be meticulous in his ruling because no matter what he rules, it will have such an impact for so many years to come.

  • 22. Alan E.  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Same

  • 23. Ķĭŗîļĺę&  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:52 am

    O Brian, where art thou?

  • 24. Dave in CA  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:06 am

    The property owner must be a donor, or belong to a local conservative action group, or something; this was planned far enough in advance that it's hard to imagine they were considering "public vs private" site. I bet some local organizer owns the space.

    It is a strange location though. McDonald's, Burger King, what looks like a do-it-yourself car wash, the bank, a nursing home, and whatever "Old Dave's Market" is. Got to be some local, personal connection.

    Still, if we can't get into the actual parking lot, seems like it'd be easy enough to get pictures from the bank or McDonald's or the car wash. It's not really even Lima proper, it's in a subdivision or township on the outskirts.

  • 25. Ann S.  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:08 am

    Taking a cue from ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ, I am submarining.

  • 26. Richard W. Fitch  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:10 am

    I live ten miles from their planned infection this coming Mon, 7/26. And I WILL BE THERE!!

  • 27. Richard W. Fitch  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:16 am

    Love the milk carton. May I suggest a minor revision. Why not HOMO-genized milk ;-)

  • 28. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:27 am

    And the Google street view makes it look like the boondocks. Odd location indeed.

    And they are looking at 89 degrees and scattered thunderstorms. Should make for a lovely day. I hope no one gets hit by lightening.

  • 29. Elsie  |  July 24, 2010 at 2:38 am

    I don't know how recent Google street view is but Old Dave's look's kind of empty. Maybe they figure they can hold it inside.

  • 30. Heather Sheridan  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:07 am

    What happened to the update on the State police officer from Maryland? Never saw the update you mentioned in one of yesterday's posts.

  • 31. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Can I add my entry to the Search for Brian?
    http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii124/AnonyGrl

    Kind of a clutzy attempt, but fun, never the less.

  • 32. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:14 am

    Street view is probably a couple of years old Elsie. They have cars with cameras on them that drove around the streets taking those pictures, and they don't get updated.

  • 33. Tim in Sonoma  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:16 am

    May be the LD$ has cut them off due to low turn out and the market site is all Brian can afford.
    Go by his house, he might be holding a "Gay"rage sale. I could use some picket signs, and would think he has a lot left over that he is trying to offload real quick for some extra LD$…

  • 34. Ronnie  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:17 am

    "their planned infection"….rofl…I love it…. <3…Ronnie

  • 35. Kathleen  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:17 am

    First, this isn't the only thing Walker is doing; he continues to hear other cases. Check out his calendar for the next couple of weeks: http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/CAND/Calendar.nsf/57
    And those are just his court appearances, which is only one part of his job.

    Secondly, writing a decision of this magnitude and covering the breadth of evidence is a major undertaking. He's not making a simple ruling on just one question, but will likely write the opinion so that it answers a number of questions and covers several "ifs" having to do with standard of review.

    I had heard some opining from people near the inner circle that they expected the ruling to only take "a few weeks" after closing arguments, but David Boies is quoted in articles saying he expects it to be mid-August. That is really the more typical time frame.

    To put this in context, think of the DOMA cases heard by Judge Tauro – trial was over early May and he released his decision early July – two months. The most recent DC marriage case – oral arguments were May 4 and the decision issued July 15 – more than 10 weeks.

    I know it seems like forever, but there is nothing unusual in it taking this long.

  • 36. Kathleen  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:21 am

    Just trying to subscribe.

  • 37. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:21 am

    Thank you, Kathleen.

  • 38. TPAKyle  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:26 am

    "Touchdown Jesus" near Cincinnati was recently struck by lightning so who knows what god's plan is for this group of haters.
    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100615/NEWS0

  • 39. Sagesse  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:30 am

    For Kathleen. The latest in the Witt DADT case.

    Obama Administration Again Defends DADT In Court
    http://lezgetreal.com/2010/07/obama-administratio

  • 40. Bob  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:33 am

    and he's probably having some pause for thought about Justice Ginsberg's "time bomb" and how he can use wording that takes that into consideration

  • 41. Sagesse  |  July 24, 2010 at 3:41 am

    And now for something completely different. Commentary on Lt Dan Choi's discharge from The Straight Spouse Network. Just when you thought you'd seen every angle.

    Don’t Ask Don’t Tell: Lt. Choi Discharged
    http://www.straightspouse.org/blog/?p=750

  • 42. Straight Ally #3008  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:08 am

    Just goes to show that human emotions are so complicated.

  • 43. James Tuttle  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:08 am

    LOL I just read this post in a different comment section and couldn't resist posting it here:

    "One man, one woman…what do they need such a big bus for then?"

    thanks other submitter person

  • 44. Straight Ally #3008  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:11 am

    Gahhhh. Can it just be over and done with, already? This is going to be such a non-issue years down the road, maybe – hopefully – not as long as we think.

  • 45. Straight Ally #3008  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:14 am

    The Dover decision was 139 pages long and it marked, for practical purposes, the end of the intelligent design movement as an open strategy – you almost never see it mentioned by name in any of the antievolution bills in state legislatures these days (yes, a handful crop up every year and typically die in committee). I'm just saying, I have a feeling this decision will be worth the wait.

  • 46. Bob  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:18 am

    DISCHARGED wonder what the protest of that action will look like,

  • 47. fiona64  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:19 am

    Hi, Brian and Louis!

  • 48. Vaati  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:23 am

    Yay, that made my day! As always I will be keeping an eye on how this turns out. Maybe they'll find him seeking comfort in a helicopter with Sarah Palin, hunting democrats, gay people, and single parents from the skies. :P

  • 49. bJason  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:29 am

    Hello, Jacob. Thanks for following and for finally speaking up! :) C'mon in and have a seat! I post every so often but have hung on every word uttered here since the site's debut.

    Welcome

  • 50. Bob  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:38 am

    welcome, that's a start , one profound comment leads to another, comment's don't need to be profound, just thoughts shared,

    hope to hear more from you

  • 51. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:44 am

    And if the trial and closing arguments are any indication, it will be a rock solid ruling that will stand all the way to SCOTUS. I feel that Perry v. Schwarzenegger will be our Loving v. Virginia.

  • 52. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:47 am

    Eden, when I clicked the nationformarriage.com site, it came up as a dating site, and when I clicked the summer of marriage tour site, Road Runner couldn't find it. And I am readint full strength on my internet connection.

  • 53. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:49 am

    nationformarriage.org came up fine. summerformarriage2010.org is not coming up and Road Runner can find it.

  • 54. Dave in CA  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:53 am

    http://www.marriagetour2010.com/

    Maggie is already starting to tweet and post from LIma at the above site.

  • 55. Dave in CA  |  July 24, 2010 at 4:56 am

    And crowd size looks similar to what we've seen before. Some pics there, but doesn't look like much turnout.

  • 56. Dave in Maine  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:08 am

    Subscribing, but kinda late…

  • 57. Bob Barnes  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Hard to tell, but looks like another sparse turnout. If you had a big turn out, you'd certainly would document it.

  • 58. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:22 am

    Hey now, I counted TEN distinctly different people in those photos on NOM's site!

    That is 40 in NOM-speak, right?

    So if there were three more that those pics missed, then the rally was attended by HUNDREDS.

    You go, NOM.

    No, seriously go. Go now. Don't come back. Thanks.

  • 59. 4eyedsue  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:23 am

    I wish the gLee cast would show up and sing a little something…

  • 60. Bob Barnes  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:31 am

    Would it not be easier to pack those same 10 people in that damn RV and take them to their next stop?

  • 61. Richard R  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:32 am

    We need to have gay men's choruses compete with NOM at some of these tour venues. These choruses are some of the best resources we have.

    On August 13, NOM will be in Harrisburg, PA. Philadelphia has a wonderful gay men's chorus. Let's take up a collection and send them out there on a bus. It's not that far away.

    On August 15, NOM will be in Washington, DC. There is a gay men's chorus right there in Washington. Get them to the venue.

    Other venues may or may not have choruses within a reasonable distance, but I don't know about those places.

  • 62. Kathleen  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:36 am

    Richard, So glad you're going to be able to make it!

  • 63. Kathleen  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:37 am

    Nice to 'meet' you, Jacob!

  • 64. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:44 am

    I am actually putting some feelers out about the Washington event and inviting the chorus. I will keep you posted.

  • 65. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:46 am

    Who is to say they didn't bring those ten in the bus from the LAST stop???

  • 66. Tim in Sonoma  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:48 am

    Richard I , for one think that is a great idea! How can anyone bark at talent? It would likely draw all attention away from the NOM podium.
    And It just might make people think twice before condeming.

  • 67. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:49 am

    NOM has uploaded their version of yesterday's event…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvQYgRs80Y

  • 68. Apricot  |  July 24, 2010 at 5:51 am

    Of all the places these guys can congregate, PLEASE do not come to my home town of Raleigh. I seriously do not on the off chance want to see, hear, or smell these folks – it will screw with my day in a big way.

    Go to Alabama or some shit, sheesh.

  • 69. Bob  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:06 am

    Fiona they have been readin this blog, cause they used your quote "hate is not a family value" that was the message you wanted to send.

    this is one message we share jointly,

  • 70. Straight Grandmother  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:12 am

    This really makes me sad. Lt Dan Choi is a West Point graduate and a leader. What is wrong with people???? A man like this, Like Lt dan is not GOOD enough? He is doing more to change things than practically any other single person. I love Courage Campaign but I also admire GetEqual also.

  • 71. Bob  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:21 am

    SG hopefully GetEqual and QueerRising, could join forces to portest his discharge, boots on the ground, maybe

  • 72. Rev. Michael V. Hunt  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:29 am

    That was me at 1:06, shouting "Where's Raman!?" while Maggie spoke.

  • 73. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:47 am

    Anonygrl, are you on FB?

  • 74. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:51 am

    Love their little deception at the end about "coming to your town," especially since they are only infecting 22 cities and one district and only infecting 19 states out of 50.

  • 75. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 6:53 am

    Unfortunately, Apricot, they will be on the south steps of the capitol on August 10th. We will probably be able to smell the stench all the way in Hope Mills.

  • 76. Anonygrl  |  July 24, 2010 at 7:09 am

    Yes, I am… Vienna Hagen. Please do friend me.

  • 77. Richard A. Walter (s  |  July 24, 2010 at 7:12 am

    I certainly will, and will send you a page suggestion about something I am working with some folks to try and get in place for Washington, DC.

  • 78. Ann S.  |  July 24, 2010 at 10:31 am

    I have a friend in Madison who I am priming to make a counter-protest appearance when the failed tour gets there (if it does).

  • 79. Yet another #NOMturnoutFA&hellip  |  July 24, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    [...] threatened arrest of our videographer, the sudden disappearance of Brian Brown (as featured on this milk carton), and the sudden reemergence of Maggie “I’m not Brian’s keeper” Gallagher, [...]

  • 80. Kat  |  July 25, 2010 at 1:55 am

    I'm sure that the original settlers of Lima, OH named it after Lima, Spain – so it's not really correct to say no relation to Spain. There are a number of Spanish place names in Ohio, as there are throughout the eastern U.S.

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